There has never at any time been a Christian suicide bomber. I have worked as an English teacher for some years in two Arabic/Muslim countries in the Middle East and never had any problems. There are many different kinds of Muslims. But I think Islam does sanction violence in a way other religions do not.
About the second, maybe they thought what they were doing was best for their own survival, but their acceptance of the ideology made it much easier for them to accept things they would not do themselves - with an obvious parallel to Islam.
I meant using his own person as the delivery system. I suppose in some rare situations a Christian serving in the armed forces in war - which I believe the Bible allows - could find some way to take some enemies with him if he knew he had no chance of survival.
I don't quite like the scenario of all the Jews being killed. How about instead all of the Jews feeling sorry that they had hurt people's feelings, apologizing to the Palestinians and asking for their forgiveness, and then just abandoning the country and going back to Russia, Poland, Germany, or any place that would accept them?
Then, what would happen next? A bitter power struggle between Iranian backed Hamas and everyone else, leading in a complete victory by Hamas and the murder by mass executions or torture and imprisonment or flight into exile of all opponents. Those remaining and loyal to the regime would be returned to all of the beautiful farms and estates their grandparents used to own - they could even reuse the old keys they had saved just for this occasion.
This would be followed over time by the forcible incorporation of Jordan and Lebanon into the new state, with heavy Iranian backing, with destabilization campaigns aimed at Turkey and Egypt, and massive political violence all over Europe and the USA, including numerous Hamas style attacks in many cities as it became clear that the world was now ready for purification and healing by the strictest application of the laws of an 8th century AD desert society.
That was given as an impossible and unrealistic scenario that is not going to happen. Look at all the problems Jews had finding places to go in the 1930s.
For one thing, Arab governments do not want to admit Palestinians. They may turn out to be radicals and troublemakers. Also, that would solve Israel's problems, and the Arabs would lose a great stick to beat Israel with.
No one wrote it for me. But tell me, why do you think it is that the Egyptians, the Lebanese and the Syrians did not allow the Palestinians to integrate into their societies but kept them confined in camps? And Egypt won't even let them into the country. I submit it is for the two reasons I mentioned. Maybe you can think of some others but I doubt it.
A huge monument in honour of Adolf-Hitler will be built in the city formerly known as Tel Aviv, and the man finally recognized as the visionary for world peace and harmony that he was.
ps jus' discovered ya an' not only are ya a hoot but yer an archaeologist too (seems ya dug up a rare arty-fact, the one joo with no sense of humor! the screeder in yer comments... omg)
pps what happens next if Israel falls--only one place'll have us--Zabars! Entire populace of Israel will find solace, a welcome lox, an olive branch (olives on sale this week). (mah fellow new yawkers'll git this joke) othervise we're in trouble should it heppen.... so may it NOT! (I still worry...)
Global medical research plummets. Middle East gains a new unstable shit hole. Egypt and Jordan hire Trump to run big, beautiful border wall construction.
The 603rd Mitzvot (Commandment) on war admonishes nations not to destroy fruit trees (wantonly or in warfare) (Deut. 20:19-20); subsequently, the use of white phosphorous in warfare, which inevitably causes fires and civilian casualties, in my opinion goes against this Commandment. I could quote other Mitzvot but no one seems to care.
We know what Hamas planned to do, even if not what they would actually achieve, since they had a meeting two years before to lay it out - and this meeting was reported in the news, including in Israeli newspapers. They actually thought they would win and conquer Israel.
"In dealing with the Jewish settlers on Palestinian land, there must be a distinction in attitudes toward [the following]: a fighter, who must be killed; a [Jew] who is fleeing and can be left alone or be prosecuted for his crimes in the judicial arena; and a peaceful individual who gives himself up and can be [either] integrated or given time to leave. [...] Educated Jews and experts in the areas of medicine, engineering, technology and civilian and military industry should be retained [in Palestine] for some time and should not be allowed to leave"
In other words, their plan was to do mass executions of every Jew who had taken up arms against them, to hold by force anyone with technical expertise (doctors, engineers, etc), and to drive out everyone else. It's not been reported what they wanted to do with the 25% or so of Israeli citizens who were not Jewish. But recall that the head of Hamas in Gaza, Sinwar, was originally in an Israeli prison for killing what he believed were Palestinian collaborators, including strangling one with his bare hands. So I suspect the Arab, Druze, Bedouin and Assyrian Israelis wouldn't come out well under a Hamas regime.
Hamas would make the Taliban look calm and reasonable.
And I thought Hamas was a plucky band of freedom fighters who only dream of a liberated Palestine that welcomes all people of good will. I stand corrected. 🙃
You forgot the part where everyone holds hands and sings kumbuya
How could I have forgotten kumbaya? Translated into Arabic "come by here" is "jee'tee ila hunna" جئتي إلى هنا
Or just Arabic for, "I've pulled the pin, now where's my 72 virgins"
There has never at any time been a Christian suicide bomber. I have worked as an English teacher for some years in two Arabic/Muslim countries in the Middle East and never had any problems. There are many different kinds of Muslims. But I think Islam does sanction violence in a way other religions do not.
Not all Nazis were mass murderers or involved on the concentration camps.
Some were ordinary family members doing what's best for themselves/family/community
I can't deny the first sentence.
About the second, maybe they thought what they were doing was best for their own survival, but their acceptance of the ideology made it much easier for them to accept things they would not do themselves - with an obvious parallel to Islam.
You will find it next to impossible to get millions of people to sign up for an evil ideology.
Tell them they're oppressed and, those people over there are the bad guys.
Just to clarify, you mean a Christian suicide bomber aiming at civilians just because they are civilians.
I meant using his own person as the delivery system. I suppose in some rare situations a Christian serving in the armed forces in war - which I believe the Bible allows - could find some way to take some enemies with him if he knew he had no chance of survival.
Or to save lives.
If you're storming up a beach facing an M42, that's a sorta suicide too.
I don't quite like the scenario of all the Jews being killed. How about instead all of the Jews feeling sorry that they had hurt people's feelings, apologizing to the Palestinians and asking for their forgiveness, and then just abandoning the country and going back to Russia, Poland, Germany, or any place that would accept them?
Then, what would happen next? A bitter power struggle between Iranian backed Hamas and everyone else, leading in a complete victory by Hamas and the murder by mass executions or torture and imprisonment or flight into exile of all opponents. Those remaining and loyal to the regime would be returned to all of the beautiful farms and estates their grandparents used to own - they could even reuse the old keys they had saved just for this occasion.
This would be followed over time by the forcible incorporation of Jordan and Lebanon into the new state, with heavy Iranian backing, with destabilization campaigns aimed at Turkey and Egypt, and massive political violence all over Europe and the USA, including numerous Hamas style attacks in many cities as it became clear that the world was now ready for purification and healing by the strictest application of the laws of an 8th century AD desert society.
Another possibility! 🙃
I've always preferred realistic fiction to fantasy🧡
What on god’s green earth leads you to believe that anyone would take the Jews?
That was given as an impossible and unrealistic scenario that is not going to happen. Look at all the problems Jews had finding places to go in the 1930s.
Why are the jews the only ones not allowed a country of there own… the people of Gaza are Muslim there is a whole middle east they can move to
For one thing, Arab governments do not want to admit Palestinians. They may turn out to be radicals and troublemakers. Also, that would solve Israel's problems, and the Arabs would lose a great stick to beat Israel with.
I'm wondering if Out of Babel wrote this for you https://outofbabel.substack.com/p/my-email-chat-with-anwar-al-awlaki - the tl;dr is toward the bottom under the subhead 'The Mother of all NIMBYs'.
No one wrote it for me. But tell me, why do you think it is that the Egyptians, the Lebanese and the Syrians did not allow the Palestinians to integrate into their societies but kept them confined in camps? And Egypt won't even let them into the country. I submit it is for the two reasons I mentioned. Maybe you can think of some others but I doubt it.
You win. Running water has a habit of travelling downhill.
Stagnant water stays in the same place until it becomes literally good for nothing.
First up on the agenda would be planning the New Palestine Pride Parade they’ve all been longing for
Somehow I don’t think that Egypt and Saudi will be all that happy about this scenario.. .
A huge monument in honour of Adolf-Hitler will be built in the city formerly known as Tel Aviv, and the man finally recognized as the visionary for world peace and harmony that he was.
It's gonna be in Jerusalem, in place of Yad vaShem 🙄
Klaus Schwab would be their hero too.
#FreePalestinefromHamas
Thanks for laugh !!!
It would produce yet another failed Arab state with endless brutal infighting.
It would also inspire intifadas across the West ie global endgame.
You keep dreaming buddy
ding dong for sure!
ps jus' discovered ya an' not only are ya a hoot but yer an archaeologist too (seems ya dug up a rare arty-fact, the one joo with no sense of humor! the screeder in yer comments... omg)
pps what happens next if Israel falls--only one place'll have us--Zabars! Entire populace of Israel will find solace, a welcome lox, an olive branch (olives on sale this week). (mah fellow new yawkers'll git this joke) othervise we're in trouble should it heppen.... so may it NOT! (I still worry...)
presto change-o, the answer appears ;-)
https://thcsofdaisymoses.substack.com/p/if-israel-falls-we-are-next?
Global medical research plummets. Middle East gains a new unstable shit hole. Egypt and Jordan hire Trump to run big, beautiful border wall construction.
The 603rd Mitzvot (Commandment) on war admonishes nations not to destroy fruit trees (wantonly or in warfare) (Deut. 20:19-20); subsequently, the use of white phosphorous in warfare, which inevitably causes fires and civilian casualties, in my opinion goes against this Commandment. I could quote other Mitzvot but no one seems to care.
I’d like them! (But then again I’m Jewish and a theologian)
I think I wrote an essay on all of them. That was A lot of work for something hardly anyone cares about. Yes, even the one about not mixing fabrics.
But I'm just an idiot goyim. I love my Jewish Brothers and Sisters though.
And what was the deal with the Canaanites? Oh, my...
I think they are on a thumb drive somewhere.
We know what Hamas planned to do, even if not what they would actually achieve, since they had a meeting two years before to lay it out - and this meeting was reported in the news, including in Israeli newspapers. They actually thought they would win and conquer Israel.
https://archive.vn/iCtWZ
"In dealing with the Jewish settlers on Palestinian land, there must be a distinction in attitudes toward [the following]: a fighter, who must be killed; a [Jew] who is fleeing and can be left alone or be prosecuted for his crimes in the judicial arena; and a peaceful individual who gives himself up and can be [either] integrated or given time to leave. [...] Educated Jews and experts in the areas of medicine, engineering, technology and civilian and military industry should be retained [in Palestine] for some time and should not be allowed to leave"
In other words, their plan was to do mass executions of every Jew who had taken up arms against them, to hold by force anyone with technical expertise (doctors, engineers, etc), and to drive out everyone else. It's not been reported what they wanted to do with the 25% or so of Israeli citizens who were not Jewish. But recall that the head of Hamas in Gaza, Sinwar, was originally in an Israeli prison for killing what he believed were Palestinian collaborators, including strangling one with his bare hands. So I suspect the Arab, Druze, Bedouin and Assyrian Israelis wouldn't come out well under a Hamas regime.
Hamas would make the Taliban look calm and reasonable.
And I thought Hamas was a plucky band of freedom fighters who only dream of a liberated Palestine that welcomes all people of good will. I stand corrected. 🙃
Ain’t going to happen.