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Heartworker's avatar

If the State of Israel had truly been "born" from the "bad conscience" of the states responsible for the "industrial murder" of millions of Jews, then those with the "bad conscience" would not have expected the Jews/Israelis to harass them for decades with a so-called "two-state solution" with precisely those who were responsible for pogroms and massacres against Jews in the formerly so-called "Palestine" before the founding of the State of Israel and who remain such to this day. Instead, they would have recognized such a "solution" as the outrage that it is, and spared the Jews the need/"duty" to enter into "negotiations" with some of their worst butchers and with people who, in the vast majority, are incapable of peace, and then to blame Israel for "failure".

Moreover, for almost twenty years, there has been a "two-state solution" (including "Gaza"), and it is incomprehensible, but deeply characteristic of those with a "guilty conscience," that they not only refuse to recognize and express that this puts an end to any thought of a "two-state solution," but that they are so utterly stupid as to now also "recognize Palestine."

I´m lost for words at such utter dumbness.

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Noah Otte's avatar

Ezra Klein is pretty dumb for someone who’s so smart. He’s terribly ignorant about the history of Zionism or it’s most important figures. He claims it just came from Holocaust guilt by the Europeans. That’s just complete nonsense and not remotely true. Jews had been longing for Zion for centuries of not thousands of years. Zionism started not after the Holocaust but after the French Revolution when Jews left the ghettos after being emancipated. As Alan eloquently explains, here Zionism LONG predates the Holocaust as does the desire for the Jewish people to be restored to their ancient homeland. Is Ezra Klein aware of the Dreyfus Affair? The pogroms in Tsarist Russia? The Farhud in Iraq in 1941? The Hebron Massacre of 1929? The quotas Ivy League universities put on the number of Jewish students who could be admitted? I’m guessing Ezra fell asleep in history class and never actually listened to anything his teacher said. Since Ezra is so ignorant and knows nothing about his own heritage or history here’s a little reading list for him:

• Jews vs. Rome: Two Centuries of Rebellion Against the World’s Mightiest Empire by Barry Strauss

• Jewish Emancipation: A History Across Five Centuries by David Sorkin

• A History of Zionism: From the French Revolution to the Establishment of the State of Israel by Walter Laqueur

• The Balfour Declaration: The Origins of the Israeli-Arab Conflict by Jonathan Schneer

• Theodor Herzl: Charismatic Leader by Derek Penslar

• The Jewish State by Theodor Herzl

• Chaim Weizmann: A Biography by Norman A. Rose

• A History of Judaism by Martin Goodman

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