As an exploration I'll agree with the premise... but the conclusions drawn I don't believe are necessarily correct. Just because our brothers do not recognize us, what are we supposed to do chase them for the rest of time until they do? Or is it time to say goodbye as the song says? Isn't it enough already? Rabbi Sacks laid out millennia of non-recognition and rejection, isn't that enough? How long are we going to keep chasing our brothers for a peace that cannot be because they will never recognize us. So, we accept the situation and sadly fight until there's a final winner. That's all that's happening now anyway. We're delaying the inevitable conflagration, no? I used to be a peacenik... I've abandoned that fantasy. Especially after October 7th... which was really just the first blow... the world response and the explosion of antisemitism adds insult to injury. So, enough already. The other Abrahamic religions both believe in some version of an Armageddon so let's give it to them.
I'm listening from the beginning and it's great... I'm already a fan of Coleman Hughes but their guest is fantastic. So nice to hear intelligent analysis.
Nah. I say family is family. You can fight until the end of time, but nothing will come of it. Is Cain his brother's keeper? Of course he is. ... I like Rabbi Sacks' approach because in the end it's the only one still standing.
Well, then it probably won't surprise you to hear that I am currently in bad stead with my own actual brother. So, I have a different perspective on this. I tried, I did, but some people are very difficult to get along with, especially family. You look like you had a warm and loving family with good relations between all...that alone is a blessing. And I am the youngest like Joseph LOL. And I went to many strange lands and when I came back I was not recognized. 🤷♂️
I'm sorry to hear about you & your brother. Especially because he'll always be your brother, whereas a breakup with a friend has a certain... finality. As you know, every family has its problems. My brother & I had plenty of rough times with each other. And sometimes we still do. But when all is said and done, he's still my brother. There's no real option other than to keep trying. For me, anyway.
You're right and when I cool down I'll reach out again reluctantly and see if he can control himself. I went 10 years at a stretch without talking to him once. It was only because my mother got really sick that we ended up talking again. I don't let anyone treat me the way that he does. It's ironic though because I know he definitely wants to be connected to me he just has anger issues. Meshugana mishpecha. Lol.
No, it's something much more simple - political radicals (communists, anti-Zionists, Nazis, anarchists, even on some level libertarians) think that everyone will see things the way they do if a certain obstacle is removed (usually some sort of propaganda by [INSERT ENEMY HERE]). This obstacle varies depending on the ideology or circumstance, but in this case, leftists believe that if Israeli "occupation" is removed, then the Palestinians will see things the way they do (hence why when you press some anti-Zionists on what will happen to the Jews living there if Israel vanishes, they claim that a secular democracy with equal rights for Jews will develop, even though the reality is that it would likely be Gaza but larger).
These radicals don't understand history, believing the established history to be a product of whatever entity they oppose (Israel in the case of the anti-Zionists). It also helps that there is a Marxist faction among the Palestinian Arab terror groups, meaning that leftists can be led into the idea that all Palestinian Arab terror factions are Marxist, when in reality the majority are Jihadist.
You must have stopped reading in the middle of my post. "Simple explanation" must have triggered your "thought is division" reflex. ... Mom makes a cameo at the end.
As an exploration I'll agree with the premise... but the conclusions drawn I don't believe are necessarily correct. Just because our brothers do not recognize us, what are we supposed to do chase them for the rest of time until they do? Or is it time to say goodbye as the song says? Isn't it enough already? Rabbi Sacks laid out millennia of non-recognition and rejection, isn't that enough? How long are we going to keep chasing our brothers for a peace that cannot be because they will never recognize us. So, we accept the situation and sadly fight until there's a final winner. That's all that's happening now anyway. We're delaying the inevitable conflagration, no? I used to be a peacenik... I've abandoned that fantasy. Especially after October 7th... which was really just the first blow... the world response and the explosion of antisemitism adds insult to injury. So, enough already. The other Abrahamic religions both believe in some version of an Armageddon so let's give it to them.
P.S. I listened to this today re Palestinian Islam. All news to me. It's fascinating:
https://pca.st/episode/1a39be9b-f82b-4eca-8f58-58aeb55a032d?t=2139
I'm listening from the beginning and it's great... I'm already a fan of Coleman Hughes but their guest is fantastic. So nice to hear intelligent analysis.
I'll give it a listen... thanks.
Nah. I say family is family. You can fight until the end of time, but nothing will come of it. Is Cain his brother's keeper? Of course he is. ... I like Rabbi Sacks' approach because in the end it's the only one still standing.
Well, then it probably won't surprise you to hear that I am currently in bad stead with my own actual brother. So, I have a different perspective on this. I tried, I did, but some people are very difficult to get along with, especially family. You look like you had a warm and loving family with good relations between all...that alone is a blessing. And I am the youngest like Joseph LOL. And I went to many strange lands and when I came back I was not recognized. 🤷♂️
I'm sorry to hear about you & your brother. Especially because he'll always be your brother, whereas a breakup with a friend has a certain... finality. As you know, every family has its problems. My brother & I had plenty of rough times with each other. And sometimes we still do. But when all is said and done, he's still my brother. There's no real option other than to keep trying. For me, anyway.
You're right and when I cool down I'll reach out again reluctantly and see if he can control himself. I went 10 years at a stretch without talking to him once. It was only because my mother got really sick that we ended up talking again. I don't let anyone treat me the way that he does. It's ironic though because I know he definitely wants to be connected to me he just has anger issues. Meshugana mishpecha. Lol.
Interesting that apparently Palestine represents the entire Middle East.
No, it's something much more simple - political radicals (communists, anti-Zionists, Nazis, anarchists, even on some level libertarians) think that everyone will see things the way they do if a certain obstacle is removed (usually some sort of propaganda by [INSERT ENEMY HERE]). This obstacle varies depending on the ideology or circumstance, but in this case, leftists believe that if Israeli "occupation" is removed, then the Palestinians will see things the way they do (hence why when you press some anti-Zionists on what will happen to the Jews living there if Israel vanishes, they claim that a secular democracy with equal rights for Jews will develop, even though the reality is that it would likely be Gaza but larger).
These radicals don't understand history, believing the established history to be a product of whatever entity they oppose (Israel in the case of the anti-Zionists). It also helps that there is a Marxist faction among the Palestinian Arab terror groups, meaning that leftists can be led into the idea that all Palestinian Arab terror factions are Marxist, when in reality the majority are Jihadist.
My mother's approach is much simpler. 😊
You must have stopped reading in the middle of my post. "Simple explanation" must have triggered your "thought is division" reflex. ... Mom makes a cameo at the end.