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Hey Alan.

The suprise I missed about what is happening in Hebron is sobering to these sorts of spectator wranglings. Maybe something unexpected and hopeful is occuring.In the story we have let to us Hebron is where the first burial recorded occurs. And the first sale of land. Sarah, dead of the heart break of imagining a G-d who demands human sacrifice, and the sight of her lover accepting such, is buried there they say. Ishmael and Isaac meet there over Abraham's body. And Jacob and Esau over Isaac. May the body count cease and the meetings increase and spread out from there with these Sheikhs and this mayor. What do I know? It could be so.

The Jew Train mind experiment you describe is very foreign to me. One train. One track. A linear story. But I see, hear, and scent all of this as an entanglement within a plenum. Even the text is palimpsest of borrowings upon redactions, traditions of traditions to change traditions until it hits this a certain point in time and then tries to forget everyone besides the victors of the race to the printers. The heart of Jew-ing to me is re-membering both forward and back. If I am forced to imagine a single direction it isn't a train as much as a ride on the wings of Benjamin's Angel, back to progress, blown out of Eden and watching the ground of ruin expand behind Her as She is pushed on.

In any case, I of course reject completely what I think I here in your experiment that to follow after the ruins and remnants of the Rabbi Yeshua is to leave off being a Jew. Its a popular take among our people. And a supersessionist idea if you ask me. But then again I am a Jew who likes calf and trees in the high places. At many stages Jews have been written out of entanglement. At least since Josiah some would say it has been the national sport. And Christendom's work in that same gym? Blech....But I realize that is another tangent altogether.

In any case you have clarified enough for me to see plenty of common ground, more than enough to feed the herd of friendship. I feel more like being quiet on here about the whole subject and just listening for word at that cave mouth in Hebron.

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Real quick....No to fire burning Israel. My metaphor was an opening within a story burning itself ( in this case Islam) down to allow something old/new to come forth. Each to their own fire in their own field. I have some crazy stuff to attend to here but I could let that misunderstanding stay even for a minute. I am with you on that sort of prophet-ing about.

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